£297.77 To £667.78 In Seven Days
Testing Of Greyhound Lays Tips
This is for a full weeks testing of my Greyhound tips and points and using BetBotPro
In fact I had started a couple of days ago with £200 but the virtual money I am using says £297.77 now. I am using virtual money here, because I have my real money actually laying live on my laptop right now. My account is private, so for this demo I will use virtual money. I am trying to win a daily profit of £50 using £4 stakes.
I am using my greyhound tips – points as they appear on my website each morning, these are the exact points that members would have been using. I can supply proof of these points if anybody wants to see them.
Laying dogs is placing a bet in the hope that this greyhound loses that race, I do not want my selection to win. I do not like to lay greyhounds when there are only five runners, and I do not lay dog’s when there are reserve’s running.
Further
In this seven day test, I am hoping to win £50 a day or £350 a week but things can go wrong. In the settings I have the software to stop, when a win profit for the day reaches £50 or a loss of £100 a day is matched. It is very rare that I could get three losing days in a week but it could happen. If this did happen then my win profit for the week would only be £50. I could quite easily get one losing day in a week and of course if that happened, then I would only win £250 in that week.
It is best to look at laying greyhounds on a long term basis. I would advise starting small and build a bank, even winning £10 a day would give £280 after the first month, £20 a day would give us £560 a month. I have written a full guide on how to lay greyhounds here Laying Greyhounds
- Start Day 1 Wallet Total £297.77
- End Of Day 1 Wallet Total £347.45
- End Of Day 2 Wallet Total £397.91
- End Of Day 3 Wallet Total £451.11
- End Of Day 4 Wallet Total £508.11
- End Of Day 5 Wallet Total £561.22
- End Of Day 6 Wallet Total £614.62
- End Of Day 7 Wallet Total £667.78
Day 1 Testing Greyhound Tips Lays 1st May 2019
As can be seen in the image above the date says 01st May 2019. This is in the morning and I have made all of my selections, the software is running. You will see in this first race I have selected two greyhounds trap 3 and trap 4. As the software kicks in 60 seconds before the start of the race it will look for a matched lay bet. I have set my criteria in the settings to only lay a dog if it’s odds are between 2.0 and 8.0. It will also only lay one dog per race.
Now we are just into early afternoon and you can see in the image above, the virtual wallet now says £347.45, so the win/profit of £50 has been matched and the software has stopped.
Day 2 Testing Greyhound Points Lays 2nd May 2019
As can be seen in the image above I had three bets that went astray but these recovered quite well. The virtual wallet has now increased to £397.91 so all is well.
I am using £4 stakes but £2 stakes can be used, it also deducts 20p off each lay bet because of Betfair’s commission. I reached my win/profit this morning after 17 races.
Day 3 Testing Greyhound Points System Lays 3rd May 2019
The virtual wallet has now increased to £451.11. Still keep getting these odd winners but the recovery software using BetBotPro is working well and the loss was recovered after 4 lays, as set in the settings. So far everything is going to plan with my greyhound tips points system and I have a profit of £153.34 after three days.
Day 4 Testing Greyhound Tips Lays 4th May 2019
At the end of the fourth day of testing demonstration I have now increased the bank to £508.11. I had things to do today so had to wait until the afternoon before starting today’s greyhound lays. Being that it was a Saturday, it meant there were plenty of races to choose from, over 400.
As can be seen above I have included a Youtube video this time to show how the lays were going live. After 4 days I now have a profit of £210.34 and it only took 15 races 1 hour and 40 minutes to get to this profit using £4 stakes.
Day 5 Testing Greyhound Tips Lays 5th May 2019
Now at the end of the fifth day of testing my greyhound tips and points and BetBotPro. The bank has now increased to £561.22. It took 16 races to reach the win target today with just one result not going according to plan. As can be seen in the image above, no lay bets were made on the races 11:34, 11:39 and 11:42 this was because the odds were out of the set range.
Day 6 Testing Greyhound Tips Lays 6th May 2019
Today was a little more difficult than it should have been to reach the £50 win profit for the day. I have my settings set to stop if I was losing £150 and another losing bet after the loss of £36.12 would have stopped the software. So instead of the £614.62 total it would have been £150 less, I would have still been in profit for the week, but only about £260.
Over the course of a week though we should always be able to show a profit but, having losing days will happen, we have to accept that.
Day 7 Last Day Of Testing Greyhound Lays 7th May 2019
Day 7 and the last day of testing BetBotPro with my greyhound tips and points. Again I had 3 lay bets that went unexpectedly wrong and had to be recovered. There were some quite large bets being placed to recover the loss and this is where it puts some people off. One lay bet that was being placed was over £80 just to win £4 but that is lay betting.
However, I did get a profit everyday and I hope this has shown you what can be achieved with lay betting the greyhounds.
Hi Chris do you load up your selections into betbotpro with an excel .csv file? If so do you have a sample? My email is dougkbkai @ gmail.com . Enjoying the results form the ratings so far. Would recommend.
Hello, No I do use an excel .csv file I will email you now, thanks.
Hi Chris, I would also appreciate any info about loading up selections into BetbotPro each day. What are the recommended settings, etc ?
Cheers, Gavin.
Hello,
I have replied to you through your email
regards Chris.
Hi Chris, could you possibly send me a copy of how to set up in Betbotpro also? Many thanks
Hello David,
I have sent you an email now.
Regards Chris.
Hi Chris, messaged you on facebook messenger and via the contact form – can you take a look when you can please? thank you
Have answered via email.
Hi Chris. I’m already a user of The Bet Engine. Would the same .csv file apply? I’m very keen to adopt this approach, just don’t have the physical time to go through race by race and tick the relevant boxes for an entire day. Many thanks
Sorry never used The Bet Engine and always enter my lays manually.
I like to be better protected. Sometimes there may be a replacement running or odds fluctuate too much etc.
So I have never used .csv file.
Hi Chris, Just signed up for a week and so far impressed with today’s results, already using Betbot with other settings, do you have a copy of yours available to import and can i ask What time do you have your points sheet up?? Cheers
Hello,
I will send you the settings through your sign-up email
thanks, Chris.
Hi Chris,
Pleased to see you are up and running again-well done.
I signed up for one week,which has ended now,(I had the full week)but I can still access the points system!,(I’m honest).
I am going to sign up for another week again,as I have not used the info on my BetbetPro software yet.
I see some users have requested your settings for Betbotpro,would it please be possible for me to have a copy as well,as I want to be sure that I have everything set up correctly.
Is it really possible to make £50 per day,(with the odd losing day),I would be more than happy with less than that,perhaps I should sign up for the monthly subscription and done with it!.
Best regards,
Mike.
Thanks for the heads up on the access should be sorted now.
Yes, it is possible to make £50 a day with the odd losing day, I do this every day myself as do other members on here.
Some members look to only make £20 a day but, yes it is true.
Hi Chris,
Thanks for reply.
You didn’t mention about the copy of the settings for BetbotPro.
Would be most grateful if I could have a copy please.
I have purchased a weeks subscription.
Many thanks,
Mike.
I will send the settings to your email now.
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Hi Chris, I signed up for a weeks subsrciption to your servive and I’m really pleased with the results after 5 days! over £150 profit from using your points system as a guide for my lay selections. Thanks alot and I’ll be signing up for a monthly subscription once this one ends. I’m keen to try the automated betting for when im sleeping during the day as I work nights so have just downloded Betbotpro. Please can you send me the settings you use for this and also some info on how to load up the selections as I’ve never used an automated betting system before.
Thanks again!
Gary
Hello, Glad you have been in profit straight away. BetBotPro is an excellent software and you can run it in simulation mode to get used to it first if you wish. I have sent the settings to your email address, thanks Chris.
Hi Chris. Could you possibly email the settings for BetBot Pro. I think I’ve got the settings correct would b great to check.
Many thanks
I have sent them to your email address.
is this system still working
Hello, Yes it is working well.
thanks , thinking of giving it a go laying to liability with a max bsp of around 6.00 , what you think
yes read it thanks , what’s your bank now , i suppose liquidity on the greyhounds is a problem , might just try one day for now
I always think the best way is to try it for a day or week and try it in simulation mode with BetBotPro. You can also get a free trial with the software as well. I maintain my bank now by leaving £2000 in the account and I withdraw any profits from the week.
wouldn’t be happy using the recover method using the bot myself but might still look at your pts system ratings sometime , thanks for all your help today
Ok no problem
Hi Chris
Please could you also email me the settings for BetBotPro?
Many thanks
Hello Clive, Sent them now.
Hi Chris,
just signed up, could you send me the betbotpro settings also please so I can check mine.
Thanks
Hello, I have sent them to you through your email address, thanks Chris.
Hello,
tried config betbotpro but I was unable to find manual trap selection option. Please send settings to my address. Thank you 😉
Hello, I have sent the settings to your email address.
Hi Chris
Would you mind sending me the settings please – great system by the way!
Hello Wayne, I have sent these to your email address thanks
Hi Chris.
I just subscribed. I’m keen on trying out BetBotPro, any chance I could get the settings that you use.
Thanks
Neil
I have sent them to your email address now, thanks Chris.
Hi can not find betbot pro settings.
yesterday on romford it was raining .
Grey hounds had a lot of problems.
What courses have indoor competitions?
Have a nice grey weekend wihout rain……
PerG
Hello, You can download screenshots of the BBT settings here Unfortunately raining is part of the racing in the UK.
hi i seen you have added australian greyhound lays but there is no exchange to lay them? there is only uk markets on betfair and betdaq
Hello David, I get a lot of inquiries from Australia with regard to the Greyhound Points and that is why I decided to supply Aus points as well. I also have members from Australia who lay dogs in the UK market. Yes you can open an account at BetfairAU Help legally. Although you will require a VPN to block out UK connection with BetBotPro. I hope this helps regards, Chris.
hi chris thanks for reply can i use my current uk betfair account on betbotpro with a vpn to lay aussie dogs? Or do i have to register specifically an australian betfair account
thanks
Hello David, I am getting mixed answers when researching this. But, I have found it says “you no longer need to transfer money to an Australian Betfair wallet just use your normal UK account”. I have messaged Betfair now and waiting for some replies, will get back to you when I find out more, Regards Chris.
thankyou Chris would be perfect solution if we can use UK account
This is the reply I had from Betfair “I’m afraid not sorry, you will not be able to place bets on the Australian market and you won’t be able to open an Australian account unless you’re living in Australia and can comply with their KYC process.” However, I do have members from various other countries using a VPN and they place bets and lay bets on the UK dogs.
thanks Chris will give it a shot
ok thanks
I have been laying the Australian greyhounds today from my UK account. Betfair have the option to select AU Greyhounds now.
Hi Chris, just signed up for a week and trying to set up BetBotPro but am struggling a bit to find the correct settings. I wonder if you could let me have your settings? Thanks, Rob.
Hello Robert, You can download the BetBot Pro settings if you wish. These are from my Google Drive.
Hi Chris,
I started to trade greyhounds a week ago. I had been using betbot pro before I found your page. It looks quite interesting. I’ll sign up today later on.
Could you tell me two things please. I’ve been using £20 stakes in the simulation mode and £3 in the live mode. Those simulation were taken but in the live mode weren’t despite they were much lower? What’s the max lay stake I can use on greyhounds? And why live ones weren’t taken? I had the same settings. Thanks a lot
Hello Martin, I don’t think there is a maximum. As long as someone is backing it to win, on the exchange, it will be available to lay. The settings have to 100% match before it can place a lay bet. Maybe in this situation, if all your settings were matched, perhaps there may not have been enough back bets made?
Hi Chris, thank you for your reply. I did two trials yesterday again and same thing. £3 bet wasn’t taken and £6 was. £3 was unmatched. All the settings fire up 60 sec before.
I don’t have time to sign up to your service. I’ll try to do it over weekend. Do I have to place all the selection manually or there is any way to automate it?
Also is it safe to put all the personal details on your website? Thanks
Hello Martin, It sometimes does happen that bets are not taken for many different reasons. I enter all my selections each morning and let BBP run placing the lay bets automatically but I do keep an eye on it. If a greyhound drops out or a reserve is used I scratch the bet. I also keep an eye on the odds in case a lot of money comes in for any dog. Entering your details on my website is very safe and I have the SSL certificate through Amazon AWS. Betfair is safe and BBP is just a middle man software a link between you and Betfair.
Good morning Chris, I have recently subscribed to BetBotPro and would be most grateful for a copy of your settings. From this page the only details I can see regarding your selection method are 1) you only lay between the lay prices of 2.0 and 8.0 and 2) you place your bets 60 seconds before race time. May I ask what other filters you apply before a selection qualifies ie race grade etc.
Thanks
Graham Raine
Hello Graham, You can get the settings I used from this link Google Drive and can adjust these to suit yourself. There is also a new Youtube video that has been made today. This again has slightly different settings with odds between 2.0 and 12.0, hope this helps.
Hi Chris,
I am considering to purchase a month subscription to try out your laying system. Is it still possible to make those profits with the system?
If my daily target will be £20 or £30 of profit then how much should be the stop loss? And what size of bank I will need on Betfair to be comfortable if I want to start to earn those profits?
Also could you tell me how many losing days you have roughly in one month when you reach your stop loss of £150(as I read in your post)? I mean just a rough average.
Thanks a lot
Ronald
Hello, I think it is better to join as a member for 1 day or 7 days and get a free trial with BetBotPro and try it first. You can then run the software in Simulation mode first and see how you get on. In the month just gone January, I had 4 losing days. Trouble is with Greyhound racing, as I am sure you understand, nothing is guaranteed. I had a message from another person who was trialing the system just the other day, here is what they wrote “Hi Chris. Still having BBP issues but I’m having great results with your lay bets, so we’ll done mate. BTW, you can drop your stakes right down, ran mine at 20p and Betfair took it. Worth knowing for testing purposes” Regards Chris
Alright Chris I understand this but “nothing is guaranteed” applies for all sports I think. Okey I will try it out for one week and see but how you calculate the stop loss is it 3 times your daily target? As if you want to earn £50 a day and have £150 stop loss. Did you have any losing months ever?
What BBP issues has this person are there any common problems with it?
Thanks
With BBP I have never had a problem with it at all. Only at the start, there was a bit of a learning curve but you soon get the hang of it. Yes I have had losing months, I would be a liar if I told you any different but, these are not very often, most weeks I get my £350 weekly profit.
Hi Chris,
finally I managed to buy your service. It’ s really good so far. When do you have time to analyse every dog??
Can you tell me two things, please? There are some races not available on betfair- can i trade them anywhere on any exchange?
and the second one- I’ m confused with the australian market. There are late hours given on your website but early on betfair and I can’ t find them
thanks a lot
It is difficult to find the time sometimes and I am already working on tomorrow’s selections. I get up really early between 3 am and 3.30 am every morning. Yes, you can trade the dogs anywhere, Betdaq is ok if they have enough matched bets but they are nowhere near as busy as Betfair. The Australian market times are difficult to convert because of the time differences between states. But, if you notice each race will have the Race Number, for instance, Addington Race 5 etc.
by the way. how can i log back in?? thanks
You can access your account and login at My Account
Chris can you Email me setting for software please
Hello Paul, I have sent them to your email address now.
Hi Chris, hope you’re well, Would it be possible please to have a copy of all your settings used for this? Like a system export? Also do you load up all your selections manually or do you import them via a csv? If you do them manually do you make selections for all the races that day or just pick like 20-30 races? Many thanks
I have replied to your email this morning thanks
Hello Chris,
I haven’ t been here for a few weeks now and I can see that you have added some three columns in the greyhounds tips section. What are they and how to use it?
Hello Martin, Yes I have updated the points selection again with the three extra columns. It is to include the greyhound tips from Racing Post, Sporting Life and Betfair/Coral.
Their tips read from left to right, so if you see under Racing Post column 345, it means they think trap 3 will win, trap 4 will be 2nd and trap 5 will be 3rd. It makes selecting our dogs to lay or back to win much easier. For instance, if the Racing post, sporting Life and Betfair/Coral all think trap 6 will win a race and I have given it the highest points, then this could be considered a good dog to back to win. Especially if the dog has very high points. Of course, if a dog also has low points and none of the other tipsters pick it to finish in the first 3 this would be considered a good lay bet. I hope this helps regards, Chris.
Hi Chris,
thank you for the explanation. Can I just get your settings, please? Do you think they will stop greyhounds soon due to this virus?
take care
Hello Martin, You can get the settings from the website Yes, I think that greyhound racing and horse racing might be stopped for a while because of the Coronavirus.
Hi Chris,
New member here!
I was looking at your spreadsheets and my plan is to lay and back. Initially to test backing the dogs for a week then laying the dogs for a week. What would ou recommend me look out for on the backing bet side? Thank you
Hello Gavin, I am currently testing another staking plan backing the dogs for a week. I am using the Custom Multiplier had a profit yesterday after a bad start but I have increased the initial stake from £2 to £4 to get to my profit target faster. The thing with backing the dogs to win is we don’t need such a big starting bank. My favorite staking plan though is Rolling Doubles but that is using The Staking Plan combined with Gruss. With the new layout now The Racing Post, Sporting Life and Betfair/Coral have been included alongside our points system so we have the best greyhound tips in one place.
The tips from Racing Post, Sporting Life and Betfair/Coral read from left to right so if the numbers say 345 they think Trap 3 will win – Trap 4 will be second and Trap 5 will be third.
Now if all three tipsters pick the same dog to win the race and we give it maximum points, then we have a very good tip.
Hope this helps regards Chris.
hi Chris are u posting horses today for Downroyal?
Yes they will be on real soon
Hi chris just joined your service. i noticed tonights are Healesville and bundaberg .. these start at 2.05 am uk time ..i am wanting to do them manually so was wondering if you do any australian that start normal uk time ie 8 am onwards or does it vary ..thanks in advance
Hello Ron, Yes I am just about to update the website again this morning. The UK time now is 3.50 am and the rest of the days raging tips from Australia are just being updated.
Thanks chris
hi Chris, how to apply the point to a place bet? I’m thinking maybe a dog not a clear back/lay for win bet, but could be sensible to bet on place market.
Good Morning
Are you going to be running the tipsters script again this morning to pick up the missing Racing Post selections?
Yes I have done this now thanks
hi chris whats happened to the one horse per race tips? the new layout isnt really any use when it gives u multiple options
It is easier for me to do it like this and gives me more time to concentrate on the dogs.
Hi Chris,
I am Brazilian and paid my monthly membership yesterday and I am very satisfied. Have there been any updates to the BetBotPro system? I’m a bit of a layman on the subject, but I identified that your settings has a different layout than the BetBotPro that I downloaded now. Can you help me with this? Thanks!
With BetBotPro there are 2 versions. It seems you have the older version, ask at BBP for the new version thanks.
HI Chris im having trouble with the settings on bbp. How do manuallt choose and then get the system to pick the lowest odds
Cheers jake
I have sent to your email address
I am a new member and new to greyhound racing, I find the ratings very good but could be improved with estimated prices and a results section.
I do horse ratings every day and would be lost without prices to filter my lays.
I have tried to find a system and found that if I filter 8 and lower that Trap 3 is good to lay, but the prices can be poor value.
At present, I am highlighting all top rated 28 and over. From these races I lay the 3rd rated as the prices are mostly good value for laying.
I avoid Sunderland as the results have been unpredictable here.
Thanks for your feedback
Hi
Just bought a weeks subs but hoping to join permanently – can you mail me the BBP setting pls and the download file – thanks
I have sent them now
Hi Chris
Done the 24hrs and very impressed!
I put a bet on one as odds for lay weren’t good and won £56 at 29/1! Just wish had put more on! Will maybe try bot next,cheers!
That’s great news, thanks for telling me. good luck.
Hi Chris.
I have just subscribed this week, so glad I did, really really helpful. After reading through all your content I’m going to start using BetBotPro next week, am I able to still get the settings that you use?
Many thanks
Russ
Hi Chris I subscribed a few days ago and really like the ratings very much. I am using a free version of betbotpro to just have a play around with.
Can you tell me what version you use and also what are the best settings to use.
I see that you use a recovery plan do you think that’s the best way to lay the dogs?
Also what size bank is needed for this to be nice and safe.
Finally have you or anyone else layed the dogs using liability stakes instead of a recovery plan.
Thanks
Hi, I have signed up for the service but it’s saying my password is wrong and I can’t access. I have requested a password reset but nothing arriving in my inbox. Really want to sign up= could you please get back to me. Thank you
Hello, I cannot see any account for you with your name or email address?
Any auto loading format for The Bet Machine?
no sorry
Hi ,
I would like to make a better use if the software as I have been working with profit accumulator for several months now
Hi,
Could you please send me the settings you use for the lays?
Thanks,
David
I have sent them to your email address
Hi Chris
I have been using the points system a few days and it’s working well, however just looking at your 7 day test, on day 2 there are all various stakes being placed and in day 3 and 5, after a loss you use bigger stakes, what is the method in this? Thanks
Hello Andy, The software BBP (Bet Bot Pro) will adjust the stake after a loss. The stake will be according to your settings and how many bets you have set to recover the loss. Good luck Chris.
Hi, I am a new memeber. Could you send me the settings you use for the lays please? Thanks in advance.
I have sent these to you now thanks
Hi chriss
You didn’t mention about the copy of the settings for BetbotPro.
Would be most grateful if I could have a copy please.
I have purchased a weeks subscription.
Many thanks,
I have sent them to your email address regards Chris
Hi Chris,
trying to order 1 months subscription but wont let me as it tells me i have an active subscription
which i dont. could you advise.
Thanks
Sorry for the delay in getting back to you. I see you have sorted now thanks
Hi Chris, I’m trying to purchase a subscription but it’s telling me I have an active subscription? Cheers
Hello Andrew, Sorry about these problems you are having. You can choose to pay by either Paypal or Stripe. Maybe if you try clearing your Cookies and Browser History this might help? Regards Chris.
Hello mate, no still not letting me do it! Not sure why, just says have a subscription.
Hello Andrew, I see you had 2 subscriptions in your name. 1. Pending and 1. a past order. I have cancelled both these now. Maybe it might work now? Regards Chris.
Hi how do I sign up had betbotpro a few years but no success could do with your help. Thank you
Hello Paul,
The sign-up page is here Shop
Regards Chris
Hi Chris could you email me on how to load the spreadsheet on betbot pro please
Hello Jake, I do not load the spreadsheet directly to BBP
Hi Chris,
I am planning to use betangel automation on this greyhound laying system but I am not planning to use the loss recovery. Will it still profitable? or we should really have to use the recovery system for this to work?
You will need some way of recovering any losses.
Hi Chris,
Could you please send me your settings for laying greyhounds that you use on bet bot Pro
Thanks Robert
Hello, I have sent them to your email address but these are the old settings I used for placing the lay bets. Regards Chris.
Ditto
Can you please send me your settings for laying greyhound favs, I’m struggling to get bets placed automatically, I’m having to do manually which means I need to be sat at laptop…..will be very very much appreciated
John
Sorry I do not have settings to place dogs automatically. But, you can select as many bets you want to place for upcoming races as much as you want.
Apologies if this question has been asked before. I noticed that in the BBP software that there’s an option in the ‘Tools’ menu to “Export Selections to .CSV” . Is it possible that you could make the lay GH selections in BBP (based on your point system), export the selections .CSV file from within the BBP software, upload that to the same place on your website where people download the excel files (https://dograces.co.uk/greyhound-lay-points/), and make that available to members too?
I can’t speak for anyone else obviously, but I’d be willing to pay a little extra for that service. Working a full time job with unsociable hours, it’s very difficult to find the time to do the selections manually. Knowing that I could import the .CSV file with the picked lay selections into BBP in minutes would be a real time saver. I not saying that this option would be for everybody, since there are those who’d rather choose which races they’d prefer to lay bet.
Hello, I do not provide the option to “Export Selections to .CSV”.
It is a bad idea to select your lay bets like this and it is better to select manually.
Every lay bet just be analyzed first as it is not just a matter of selecting the dogs with the lowest points.
Non-runners can change options as can reserve dogs. Also, a shift in betting markets should also be watched.
Regards Chris.
Hi Chris56
I joined a couple of days ago for the 7 day trial I AM SO GLAD I DID I use betbot pro and aim for £15 per day so far won every day which is just fine for an OAP so many many thanks for a BRILLIANT SYSTEM
regards Cliff
Hello Cliff, Great news thanks for the great feedback. Regards Chris
Hi again CHRIS56
I have just got an email asking to subscribe as my 7 day trial was ending I did that already OK
Also can you tell what settings work with BetBot Pro I just can not sort it out what I am using now is
LayBot pro which is no longer available to download but my version is working OK
Regards from a very happy Cliff
Hello Cliff, The emails are automated so I am sorry about that. I have sent the BBP settings that I used some time ago in the video to your email address. However, these can be changed according to your own requirements. Regards Chris.
Thanks for the service Chris. Is it on your plan to push out a CSV that is importable to BPP for the lays? One can then easily filter out the races with reserves, or non-runners etc…which you rightly recommend. The points system is great but in a world of automation, we need the CSV as others have pointed out, without compromising on the quality of selections
Hello, I have looked into this many times but it is not really the best way to lay the dogs. Factor we can’t account for include weight in the betting. As you are probably aware some dogs can have large bets placed in the last few minutes. Also sometimes during the day, I update the tips as and when new data comes in. However, I will try to implement something in the future. Regards Chris.
Hi Chris, could you please send through your settings for BBP.
Thanks
Hello Dean, I have sent these to your email address, regards Chris
I could be wrong but surely if you have one loosing day of -100 then your max profit for the week would be 200 not 250 like stated
yes sorry this was pointed out before, thanks
Hi Chris
Please could you also email me the settings for BetBotPro?
big thanks
Hello, I have sent these now
Hi Chris,
Great site!Have just signed up for a week to give it a go.I’ve re-installed Betbotpro and was wondering if you could email me the settings for laying dogs if possible.
Much appreciated…cheers.
Ronan
Hello, I have sent these to your email address now, regards Chris
Hiya chris
could you send the settings/excel please
thank you wendy
I have sent these to you now
Please send me a copy of the betbot settings I am singing up for a trial on your site now
Hello, I have sent them to your email address now
Hi Chris,
I just happened to find your site while looking for something else. The betting gods must be looking down on me favourably!!
I will be signing up to 7 days of your service to start, along with the 7-day free trial of BBP.
I’d be grateful if you could share your BBP settings with me. Please let me know if I’d need to sign up with you first to receive the settings.
Also, I currently back and lay horses and football on Betfair and I’m wondering if I’d be able to continue doing this while running BBP but keeping the bank and staking plan separate for your selections.
Lastly, do you have a rough guide for a starting bank to target £10, £20, £30, £40 and £50 per day?
Hope this all makes sense
Mick
I will send the BBP settings to your email address, but they are just a starting guide. You should be able to keep your bets seperate. Starting bank is difficult to advise. I stated with a £300 bank years ago, looking to make a £20 daily profit.
Hi Chris,
I purchased a 7 day subscription but the links I received in the email to create a password and access my account are not working.
I’m now able to login and view tips on my phone but when I first tried to view tips on my laptop, I was asked to enter and then change my password (which I couldn’t as I wasn’t able to set one via the email link) and now I’m being redirected to the shopping page.
Hoping you can help.
Thanks,
Mick
I replied via email, thanks
Hi Chris,
Same issue as above. Downloaded a trial of bet bot pro as well. Please could you send the BBP settings across through email?
Thanks
Jaimin
I have sent these now
Hi, any links to the tipsters would be great,my second request for this info.
Regards.
Hello, I have answered your email as well. There are no links to the tipsters.
Hello….is there any long term data available here for me to go through? Any system relying on recovery staking usually scares the pants off me (through bitter experience).
Hello, There are many different systems you can try. I have been looking at a new backing system that has consistently produced a profit for the last few days. I will be sharing this soon. But, all I really do is to provide the best greyhound tips available and my own points system.
I have sent to your email address
Following this system and using the Fibonacci Sequence and I am up to 8 losers in a row (3 last night, 5 this morning) and the stakes are getting pretty high. How long do you go before you stop and decide it doesn’t work? I am betting £2 points and have a bank of a couple of grand….which is depleting fast 🙂
Hello, I have stopped for the day, following this bad run. You should have a stop loss in mind and if you reach that, then just stop for the day. On another day you can probably recover the losses.
Hi, I’ll try this with £1 stakes first. Looking at the screenshot, it looks like the loss recovery is set to add £4 (or the original stake) to each of the next bets until it recovers the loss, so is this how you’ve set it?
If using a software to place your bets, such as BBP it will work out the next stake for you, depending on your initial settings.
Any chance of an email with the BBP settings for this issue me ?
I will send them to your email address now. However, they are really only for a guide now because I use different settings now, for my greyhound lays and greyhound tips.
Do you still do the lays and find them profitable? I tried from the 9th July to yesterday on paper selecting the lowest points that weren’t tipped to finish in the top 3 and the losses outweighed the wins. I think the first 4 days had a profit, but the 5th day lost all of that because the odds it layed at with the loss recovery stake made it go way over the £50 limit anyway. This was with odds of between 2 and 12, the lowest points under 15 that weren’t tipped to finish in the top 3 and selecting the one with the lowest odds at the off if there was more than one. I had a play with the selection criteria and found one that was a bit more consistent, but takes longer to hit the profit target:
Select the ONE runner with the lowest points under 15 (or more if they have the same amount of points)
Mustn’t be tipped to finish in the top 3 by any 3 of the tipsters
BSP between 2 and 9
5 runners or more
No reserves
Select the runner with the lowest odds if more than one qualify
I found with those, I only had one losing day out of 15. The target was 6 winning bets at £5 each, but it can take longer to hit the target because not as many qualify, especially if there are a couple of losing bets and you have to do loss recovery.
To be honest I am using the backing strategy each day now. “Select the ONE runner with the lowest points under 15 (or more if they have the same amount of points)
Mustn’t be tipped to finish in the top 3 by any 3 of the tipsters
BSP between 2 and 9
5 runners or more
No reserves
Select the runner with the lowest odds if more than one qualify”
This is basically the system I used before. If using BBP to place your greyhound lay bets then BBP will select the dog with the lowest odds. The reason I went with odds up to 12 was because I could get more bets matched. It is better to be more selective, like you are doing because it is safer and a less likely to lose.
Yeah, I also found that you could just go for one or two bets a day as most of the time the first 2 lay bets win. So you could do them for £10 or £15 each, then use loss recovery until you get to a loss limit.
Hi Chris, can you please send me a sample of the. Csv you are using?Thank you for your work
Each morning the greyhound tips and greyhound betting tips are available to download as an excel format.
Hi Chris, I would also appreciate any info about loading up selections into BetbotPro each day. What are the recommended settings, etc ?
Whats your strategy, could u explain ?
Thank for your work
I made a video here about loading the BBP settings
Hi chris,
you could give me any info about loading up selections into BetbotPro. What are the recommended settings?
Whats your strategy, could u explain ?
Thank for your work
Also there is another video
Hi Chris, I woyld also appreciate any info about loading up selections into BetbotPro each day. What are the recommended settings, etc ?
Could u explain your strategy?
Thaks so much
The easiest way is to follow the videos thanks Chris.
I tried to watch the videos before sending a message, but I didn’t understand, I also tried to read the text, but it doesn’t say whether you use fixed stakes, your methods, or whether you double your stake in case of defeat.
and I also didn’t find anything about the bot’s configuration.
I know you have no obligation to pass, but it would be a great help, I’m starting now.
Please tell me in detail how you use your settings and how you make your selections.
thank you very much
As I say in the videos and on the website guide. This is using the Fibonacci staking plan. So the bets increase following a loss. It is fully explained on the guide All the greyhound tips are on the website each morning and all the greyhound racing tips are pre-selected.
Boa noite, estou tentando fazer a compra e so da que to impedido de fazer o pedido, como faço para resolver isso e fazer a assinatura?
Se seus dados estiverem na lista de bloqueados, você não poderá se inscrever
Hello
I apologize for asking this question!
Is it worth buying the software, BetBotPro?
I’m asking this question here because I don’t see more advertising and owner involvement!
I tested the FREE version and I didn’t really get good results, possibly because I don’t know the software well!
Hello,
There are quite a few different bet placement softwares available but I found BBP works for me.
It does need some time to get used to it.
I paid for a 7 day trial on Saturday and I have no access to the tips section! Can you advise please.
Thanks
John
Hello,
The issue was between my website and Stripe payments
I have manually accepted the payment and your account is now active.
The links are as follows:
Your Account Page: https://dograces.co.uk/my-account/
Tips home page: https://dograces.co.uk/greyhound-tips/
UK greyhound tips: https://dograces.co.uk/greyhound-lay-points/
You should be able to access through those links.
Thanks Chris
Hi Chris,
Can you please also send me you setting to my email address? Thanks.
I have sent them now.
Hi Chris,
I have tried your points system for laying bet for few days and I found these points does not work all the time. I got about 2 losses out of 5 days. The dog that has the lowest point is sometime the one will win at the end. With the recovery stake plan in BetBotPro, if it loss it again within the recovery bet this will soon become a huge loss. This is happening today where I drop from 150 to around 30 within just 10 races! Any comment on how accurate this points you given? Thanks.
Hello,
The tips are just a guide, how you use the tips is up to each person. The backing tips were not very good today and this does happen sometimes. Today though you should have hit your profit with the greyhound tip Monmore 14.17 Trap 5 Longacres Noah which won at 7/2. Also if there is a losing day you should be able to recover any losses on the winning days, that is how the system works. The greyhound lay bets were also very good again today.
Hi Chris, I am having login problems at the moment. Was fine
early this morning. Cheers
I have emailed you now.
Hi Chris just to let you know i joined about ten days ago and started trading seven days ago all days got me my profit and only one day ,saturday did i have to use recovery stakes but that worked in the next 4 lays. so 7 days of a profit I cant argue with that. Keep up the good work
Hello, Yes it has been very good for a long time now, can’t remember the last losing day. Thanks for the feedback
Yesterday was a bad day with selected lays preloaded….some big winners unfortunately,I know this can happen, just bloody typical on my first day back…..not to disheartened yet .
In yesterday’s morning lay tips, we did have a few big winners, and to be honest, I did hit my stop loss. However, I tried again in the afternoon and hit my profit target quite quickly. Today has been brilliant; I already hit my profit target and won £53.20 today. Actually, yesterday was a good day (17/05/24); it was Thursday (16/05/24) with the bad morning lay tips,but the afternoon was good.
Morning Chris
Today has had a few losers but I may be able to shed a light on it if you would allow me to stick my oar in.
11.27 Alnwick Lottie Won at 11.0 this dog was having its second race
12.34 Westforth Jayzee Won at 7.0 again lightly raced this was its 6th race and first i think in a handicap
12.53 Hey Duke Won at 5.9 having its 3 race and dropped a grade
I only noticed this as i use a backing strat on lightly raced dogs you usually get a good price on them as well. No problem ill stop for a bit and go back in this afternoon.
The guy on ATR has mentioned several times that SP is now calculated differently from pre covid times where it was the bookmakers on the rails returning the price but it is now got directly from the exchange so if it aint fancied on the exchange it goes off an enormous price, im sure this can account for big priced winners.
Hello,
Yes, this morning has been a disaster but, I knew it was coming. I think it was 29 days without loss, so can’t complain really.
11.27 Alnwick Lottie was no surprise really, had been doing quite well in trials and I was surprised to see such long odds. In hindsight maybe should have by-passed this race
12.34 Westforth Jayzee very much a surprise to see this dog win. The dog started very well and held the lead.
12.51 Hey Duke again from Newcastle but never expected this dog to win at all. Usually finds trouble in his races but, came back to win this time.
It is correct that the exchanges control the odds now and it is best to watch the weight of the bets if possible.
Thanks for your feedback Chris.
Hi, thinking of joining, please confirm what other factors do you use beside your points, Thanks
These easiest way where everything is explained in detail is at: https://dograces.co.uk/laying-greyhounds-guide-2024/
Hi Chris, do you have a maximum odds level for lays? For example nothing over 6.0?
I have mine at maximum of 12.0 because when I had it set at max 8.0 it was difficult to get enough lay bets
Thanks Chris, are your lays still performing well?
Yes they are going well
Hi, after the past two days I think it is worth highlighting some of the losses you can be subjected to, above and beyond the consistent winning days which are outlined. For instance, using the suggested settings, yesterday’s lays and this morning would’ve resulted in a loss of close to £500. Whilst you have to accept losing days, I would be interested to hear thoughts on the recovery method which is implemented. After losing two races in a row, the recovery stake invariably increased to a sizeable £50 a bet, with a huge liability which subsequently lost as well.
Given this would in turn take weeks of consecutive profit days to recover, how often an occurrence typically are these disastrous days? I don’t believe it has been discussed in detail.
Thanks.
Hello,
In the last 5 days I have had a profit on each of those days
I have a profit target of £30 a day. I have attached screenshots for the last 5 days.
What profit target were you aiming for?
Yesterday was a brilliant day with no losing bets and I reached my profit target after only 8 races. Please see attached images.
The layout strategy I have shown here is what I use, myself each day. How someone uses the tips I give is up to them.
I give the greyhound tips from Racing Post, Betfair and now my own software “SoftwareGem” because Sporting Life are no longer giving greyhound tips.
With the tips you can use the Backing tips, Lay bet tips or use the points system, as I say you are free to use the tips to suit yourself. I am just showing how I use the Lay Bet tips.
You can also choose your own stake amount, your own profit target and also you can choose your own maximum loss amount.
Personally I have an initial £4 stake and stop when I reach my profit target of £30.
There are lots of staking plans to choose from and you are free to use your own.
I hope this helps and good luck with your betting.
Hi Chris,
Thanks for the response. I was using the staking plan and conditions outlined in your 2024 laying guide – the stakes were £4 with a profit target of £50. I must admit, I have been using the strategy for around a month in BPP with your Excel exports and appear to have a lot of variance from your results – I am certainly not in profit. I would be keen to hear your thoughts as to why and potential improvements. I did experience quite a degree of initial success, however, several days I have encountered multiple consecutive losses whilst in recovery stakes which causes significant damage to your balance. That combined with the large max next states as a result, and the significant liability to accompany the bet, makes it actually difficult to get a bet matched.
I notice you have now dropped your daily profit target to £30 from £50 and would be interested to know why. Are you having more success as a result? Observing today as an example, had £30 been the profit target, I would’ve avoided being in a loss overall. That may indeed also be the case for other days where my results have varied from yours. I would’ve attached a screenshot as an example, but I am unable to in the comments. Thanks.
When I wrote the guide I was using a £50 daily profit target as an example. I do now aim for £30 a day because it suits me, as I sometimes try the backing tips in the afternoon/evening. Today was another excellent day with no losses at all to reach my profit target of £30. As said before, you are free to use the tips as you wish. Some people aim for £10, £20, £30 etc., profit a day. Some use a different staking plan. Some use a lower loss limit; some use more. I have tried every staking plan with BBP and the recovery staking plan suits me best. What I do now is get to my daily profit as fast as I can. That is why I use initial stakes of £4 and use a maximum of 12.0 odds. If all goes well then I reach my profit target after only 8 successful bets.